Discovering the Gaps in Our Values with the Values Bridge Quiz

S1, E5: In this episode of Let Me Walk You Out, Stephanie and Kyndall are talking about values, alignment, and what it really means to become your higher self.

After taking the Values Bridge assessment, we sat down to unpack our top values, our authenticity gaps, and the ways our current lives do or do not reflect the women we are becoming. This conversation opened the door to deeper reflections on financial freedom, achievement, joy, aesthetics, spirituality, family, impact, and the importance of choosing to show up as the version of yourself you keep envisioning.

We talk about what it means to stop living by default, get honest about what matters to you, and begin bridging the gap between where you are now and where you want to be. From ambition and money conversations to faith, family, personal growth, and learning how to move with intention, this episode is a reminder that your higher self is not some faraway version of you. She is built through the values you choose to honor every day.

Take the Values Bridge assessment linked in the description and let us know what values showed up for you.

Comment the bridge emoji if this episode resonated with you.

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Resources mentioned during the episode:
The Values Bridge: https://thevaluesbridge.com/ 
The Astral Planner (Daily Executive Planner): https://www.astralplanner.com/ 
The Black Girl's Guide to Financial Freedom: https://amzn.to/4eYvLpU 
The Psychology of Money: https://amzn.to/43TwSko 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Greek mythology there is huge, but they're also extremely Catholic. And for me, I was like the duality, right? They believe in these myths, they have cities founded on the goddess of Athena, you know, the the goddess of Nike, but yet they also still truly deeply believe in the religious roots and aspects of their culture.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

Well, welcome back to Let Me Walk You Out, a podcast on navigating young adulthood, self-growth, alignment, and anything and everything in between. We're your host. I'm Kendall.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

I'm Stephanie.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

And we're so excited to be back. Yay!

SPEAKER_01 0:44

It feels like it's been so long.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

It always feels like it's been too long.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

But for y'all, it's only been a week. Right.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

For us, we're like, girl, I haven't seen you in so long. Yeah, but we're always up under each other. No, seriously. I don't know. I always miss when I'm not recording. This has become like such a rich and like yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

Kind of just something like a release almost. Because it feels like I just get to Kiki for like a cool day. Cause it takes a minute. It does take a minute. It does take a minute. Because we talk it before we record, while we're recording, after we record, like it's a lot of talking, but I wouldn't want to do it with anyone else. Literally, same girl. Literally same. Yeah, well, awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

Let's just jump into our highs and lows for the week. Yeah. So I'll let you go first.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Okay. Yeah, we'll start with high. So my high for this week was we officially, officially, officially launched Let Me Walk You Out on all platforms. Like it feels so crazy to say, but it's real, it's there, it's live, and people are consuming. So it just is like so weird. It feels good.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

It's been such a good feeling. Yeah. I've been loving like the positive feedback and the constructive criticism. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

And those first couple episodes, we know. No, we know. We know. Some of the criticism was like, oh, baby, we we actually heard those first two episodes like maybe 50 times.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Yeah. Because it was just so much going back, editing, figuring it out. We had so much to learn. Yeah. About podcast editing, how to upload, how to basically just build a podcast from scratch. Yeah. And yeah, we were so excited to edit the third episode because finally new content. It was so fresh to us. It was so fresh. Like, oh I could I promise you I could recite the first two episodes back towards at this point. And but yeah, I understand now when artists are like, oh, I put out a song and you're you love making music, but you're you might be tired of hearing that one song because you have to go back and like stack harmonies of the bridge. You worry about the end. And but by the time you've rewinded it like 50 times to make it perfect, yeah. You don't even you're like, I'm tired of this.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

Yeah, I'm tired maybe like not even trying to do it no more.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

I think those first two episodes for me, when I revisit, like in a year, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Like, oh, this is so fresh, so refreshing right now, right now. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

That's in y'all's hands.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Yeah, I'm gonna let y'all enjoy it. And we don't leave it there for real. But it definitely feels really good to have our content out there and to finally have something that we've been talking about for so long be real.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

So I agree. That's my high. I love it, girl.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

That's also a high for me as well. Um, and my hi is that my dad got married.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

Oh yeah, congratulations.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

My dad got married, so congratulations to him and his wife. Sounds crazy to say. Like the first couple times I said it, it didn't, it just didn't feel like it. Didn't really roll off the tongue just yet. Yeah, but it's his wife, you know? The ceremony the ceremony was gorgeous. Yeah um and it had all of our family and friends, and I knew I was gonna be emotional, you know. Yeah, but it just was crazy because it felt like I was like just seeing my dad grow up, even though he's a grown up, but it was just like, wow, like you're just entering a new chapter, you look so happy, um, so naturally. I was like, you know, I'm not gonna tear you in there, and you know, my uncle he said he listens to our podcast. So if you're listening, he was teasing me. He was like, You finna cry? You finna cry? He's a jokester. I'm like, yes, I'm gonna cry. Yes, I'm finna cry. I'm not too gay. Why you ain't crying? Why you ain't crying? Exactly. But yeah, it was just good overall to like catch up with my family too, see them all, um, meet some of her folks, like some of her extended family. Um, and right after they they set off to California. So um, yeah, I think that was my high.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Congratulations to them. I'm so happy for them.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Oh my gosh. It's like it feels like a live chapter is just like closed technically for you, but like opening for them.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

Exactly. Like this is the beginning of the rest of their lives. And I think that's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

I just love marriage is like, yeah, it's like one of those things, it's just like so it's just like, especially when you know it's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

And with them, like I knew, and I could just tell how my dad was speaking about her before I had even met her, and he was like, I want to tell you I have someone new in my life, you know. But everything that he was saying, it just you could just see in the energy, yeah, where it was going. It was kind of undeniable, and I think that's how everyone should feel about who they're with. Like everyone deserves to have that, and so because it's my dad, it just felt like just such a good feeling, you know? Such a good feeling.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Once again, so happy for them. Oh my god, I'm like over here blushing, it's not even me. It's not even me. I just love love, like you said, right? It just makes me happy to see people happy. So yeah, well, we can dip into the lie, the lies, not the lies, the the lows that we want to turn into highs, right? Maybe that's why I thought or said that, but um, my low is that I've been working on establishing less screen time. So I'm really trying to do better with that because I just feel even like during my work day, like I don't allow myself to open up social media before 12 p.m. But sometimes as soon as that 12 p.m. mark hits, I'm I'm right on there, you know. Like I'm looking at the time, oh it's 12.04. Okay, I can go on social media, but then the next 30 minutes, 45 minutes, I'm just scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. And then you know, my time limit expires, and then by the time 4 p.m. rolls around, I want to get back on. So I'm just trying to do better about setting those boundaries. I feel like it's harder for me being that I work on social media, so like I'm always on a social media page, whether it's my brand, whether it's a brand that I work with, you know, a brand that I manage. So I'm just trying to find a healthy balance there. But that was my low, and I think I wrote that in my journal several times. Like, we need to get off the phone, like the phone is distracting you from getting your work done in your nine to five, as well as everything that you do outside of that. So that is like a little bit of a low that I'm working on, just being tired with those boundaries for myself, just so that I could be more productive during the actual day. And if I do want to get on social media, I'm allowing myself to have that time of finding a really good, healthy balance. So I'm not spending like if I allow myself 30 minutes a day, it's not 30 minutes in one sitting, you know? Yeah, so that's my low.

SPEAKER_02 7:23

Yeah, it's it's a low for everyone. You're not alone and trying to control that screen time. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's the thing for me too. I have mine, mine also opens up at noon. I don't really have like a set time limit, it just opens from like 12 to now it's like 8 p.m. I kind of try to do it with like the sun. So when the sun goes down, I don't want to be on there. But I find myself ignoring that all the time. Like sometimes if I wake up and I really just want to see what's going on, I'll hit ignore and just don't care. Yeah. And I'm like, what's the point then of these boundaries of I'm not even holding myself accountable? But yeah, I feel you there. So I think my low would just be I mentioned my dad getting married, but in a way, I'm just dealing with a lot of change. And I think it's not necessarily a low because I was kind of struggling to find a true low. Yeah. But I've noticed that trying to figure out how to deal with my family changing, my life changing, just continuing to grow into like young adulthood as we've talked as we've talked about before, has been just I'm not sure if I'm as good with change as I would hope to be. So I just found myself getting really sentimental and um I'm very attached to my dad. I'm very attached to how my life currently is set up now because I you know, you just get used to your surroundings and then to see it kind of they're moving on into moving into their house, they're moving on into doing their life. Right. Not that I won't be a part of it, but it looks different than what it did now. And I think that I just had when it I had quiet moments to myself, I was just like just emotional. Like I'm a crier, so I just cry, you know? And I just think about how I'm feeling, and I just cry and I let it out. Yeah, so I wouldn't say it's a bad thing because it's it's a normal thing, but it has made me also just on the flip side of being so excited about everything going on. I've also just been like, wow, like this is maybe the last time I'll ever like live with my dad. This is the last time. The list goes on, so when it goes on, it's like spiraling, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

Yeah, so I feel like that was that was my love for the week. Yeah, change is it feels inevitable, but it's always so hard to adapt to. Yeah, especially I feel like you just love this era of like living with him, like coming home to that, and then now you got used to it, it felt like you got used to it, and then as soon as you start getting used to something, it's common things.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

But that's life, you gotta just because genuinely, even a year ago, if you had told me, like, okay, this time next year your dad will be married, and like really like really you know, so it's it's crazy how life happens and unfolds in very beautiful ways, yeah. But you just always have to be prepared to go with the flow. You do, you know, the only thing you can control is yourself and how you react and how you respond.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

So that's very true, that's very true. Well, I mean, Illoki turns into a high for you because now you are moving on to a new chapter. We'll get into that later though. I was like, you know what? I was like, girl, because you know I wrote that down as like the hybrid. I know, I know. So I was like, you know what? We're gonna get into that later. We're not even gonna talk about that right now. Y'all tune into next week's episode and know what we're talking about. Anyway, so cool. All right, well, that was highs and lows. And we'll go ahead and move on to black business of the week. And this week's black business is Indable. Sorry, it just makes me laugh. I feel like the name is like really funny, but Indable is a black-owned smoothie acai shop, superfood, you know, all that good stuff located on the south side of town, right over there by Georgia State Pryor Street in that area. Now, y'all, if you love acai bowls, if you're a pliablow's girl, I want you to go check out Indable. So I visited Indable. It's just so funny to keep saying Indable. I'm so sorry. It's just like I visited this business not too long ago, but when I tell you, you get a bowl, okay? It is a big bowl, and it is like your typical asay shop. Um, but it is black-owned, so I really appreciated that. And they had so many options. They had like Nutella, of course, honey, cookie butter, which not a lot of um asayu shops have cookie butter. Never had cookie butter in cookie butter in your bowl is actually so good butter. Now, let's be real, y'all. We we know a saiu bowls is quote unquote healthy, but we can we can put a whole bunch of stuff too.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

I was like, now I'm defeating the purpose of getting fruit in this bowl.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

I'm gonna put that lotus cookie butter on top. Chef's kit so good. But let's but for real though, summertime is upon us, and so I wanted to give y'all one of those cool little shops where you can switch it up a little bit and get you an asaí bowl. Maybe you're in the mood for a smoothie, they might do salads and stuff like that. But definitely check it out. I'll have their Instagram in the description below. You can check it out if you're going on a walk for the belt line. Maybe you're checking out a local park and you just want something refreshing after. I am a big asay bowl person. I rarely ever leave anything in that bowl, not even a piece of fruit, sometimes not even a stem. Okay, like the bowl.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Maybe we don't even leave the bowl.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Maybe I just eat the bowl. If y'all ever made an acai bowl that was edible, I would eat the bowl. Like, I'm so serious. Maybe that's we should work on that. Yeah, yeah. Keep it on the low business. You know what? Maybe cutting that. But for real, like I'm gonna go ahead and leave the description, address all that stuff in the um in the description below so that you can check that out. But summertime is upon us, you know. So this is the time. Have fun, you know, experiment with different things, check out your local black businesses and support. But don't all go at once, please, because this is a really nice spot. And so um just be prepared for a wait because it's made fresh. But you'd like it, trust me, because I'm an asayu girl person. I literally have some asay in the freezer right now. I make these for fun, so you should check it out. And yeah, yeah, it sounds yummy. It's very yummy, yeah, very yummy. All right, well, as you can tell by the title, our topic of the week, we're gonna be talking about our values, and we're gonna be talking about it through a quiz called the values bridge, and so this is kind of how we kind of got started on this topic a little bit. Um, I was listening to once again scrolling on social media as I do, but I was on my other page, so it was more of a productive scroll because on my diaries page, I try and only follow people who I feel like motivated by. So I was on my diaries page this time. I wasn't on my main where I get all the dog videos. Right. It's like, yeah, this was like more focused. Exactly. And one of the creators that I follow, she was talking about the values bridge and how really understanding her values just helped her craft her life in a more intentional way. And so I said, Oh, this is very interesting. Hmm, it's like you think you know what your values are, and you probably do know what your values are, but sometimes it's really fun to take a little quiz to see, okay, how is it actually laid out? Like in what order and what priority do I need to be focusing on certain things? And so I ended up taking the quiz and then I sent it straight to Kendall as soon as I was done, as I do every time I do anything that's personal development, anything that's protein, anything that's fiber. I was I sent it straight to her. I'm like, girl, check this out, girl, check this out. You might hate it, you might love it, but just do it, you know? So I did that and she took it as well, and she really liked it. And we were talking about it in our last episode, but we decided let's just make this a full episode because we can really talk a lot about our values and how that has really helped craft the life that we are looking to live, not just the life that we live now, because of course there's gonna be some gaps in what we really truly want to see. Being, you know, we're really only 24-25 years old. So in our ideal world, we're living our perfect life right now, but you know, we're not living in an ideal world, we're living in reality. So we're gonna talk about that today, and we could just go ahead and jump into it. But I will let you know the link to the quiz is in the description. So, this entire time we're talking, you can do this yourself. You I encourage you to do that because it was just very eye-opening for me. It's like something that I knew about myself, a lot of the things, but it was just cool to see it laid out and see definitions and stuff like that. So it's in the description, and you can take this yourself, you can take it now, you could pause and then come back. You could take it in your own time, whatever you do, the resources there for you, baby. So let's get into it.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Let's get into it. Period. I'm gonna be on my uh my laptop over here on the side. Just so you know. No, you're good. You're good. I wanted to be able to pull up my results.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

Yeah, I um I wrote my top four down because the the quiz gives you, like the free version at least, gives you the top four. You can pay to unlock the rest.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Yeah, there's 16 in total. And you can pay to unlock the rest, but for these purposes, we'll just focus on four.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

So for both of us, I guess we'll we'll just I think, yeah, list out what your top four were. My top four, yeah. Okay, so my top four, my first one was affluence, uh, my second one was achievement, and then that was tied, two and three were tied. So my second one was achievement, and my third one was cosmos, and then my fourth one was radius, and we can get into definitions in a second. Like, I want you to say yours, and then we'll kind of like break them down, define it.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Yeah, okay. Let's see. So I guess this means my first three were tied, and this is fourth, yeah. So tied for first, I guess, was eudaimonia, beholderism, cosmos, and the fourth family centrism. So I guess break us down stuff. Okay, what do yours mean? Because I don't even think I know like even what radius means. Yes, you know, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

Some of the terms are a little out there, they but they do provide definitions, they do, and the the definitions are really great, and they break it down, and then of course, you can take that, go to Google, Chat GPT, do whatever you gotta do to really understand it a little bit more. But for me, I'm not gonna lie, this wasn't really a surprise to me. Like a lot of mine were like, oh, okay, yeah, that's that's that's me, and it feels good because then you can walk in your truth, right? So, affluence for me was financial freedom and just having not just financial freedom, but just like literally not having to worry about a single thing financially, being able to be in those circles and fit in in high society things and not feel like it's a it's one of those things that people look down upon. Like, I'm in my circle and I'm confident in my circle. I am living a life and building a life that definitely requires a lot of financial undertaking, but I've worked hard to get to that point and I'm very confident in that. So influence is really important to me, and it honestly made sense just because of how I kind of grew up past middle school. I would say like my high school years were pretty transformative to me. I talk about your inner teen all the time. Like we talk about inner child, but I also believe that there is like an inner teen in you that's kind of guiding your decisions, and I think the inner teen is me in me is guiding the affluence, the affluence that I'm really trying to create in my life just because of how that environment kind of shaped me. And then two, you want me to talk about two, or do you want to talk about your number one first? Well, I guess you got three number ones. That's true. It's like which one, right? Honestly, do you feel like there's out of your tie of those three, is there one that really resonates the most with you as number one?

SPEAKER_02 19:36

I would say eudaimonia, eudaimonia is the one I resonate with the most, and they they did place that as number one technically, so I would say they got it right, and just to define that, because yeah, I know people listening like, what the heck is this?

SPEAKER_01 19:49

What is that?

SPEAKER_02 19:50

Because I that that was my first thought as well. Um, I had never heard of this word before I took it, and it answers the question how much do I want my life to be organized around experiences that bring me pleasure and joy? Um, and I think that that's true for me. Like, I think in anything that I do, I just want to be, I don't know if happy is the right word, maybe just content, fulfilled. Like, I don't want to do it if it's not ultimately bringing me that. And the way that the values bridge describes it, I think was really intelligent. It's because, or it's not that people who have a lower eudaimonia score don't want joy in their lives, they just might prioritize things like discipline or like other things more to get to where they want to be. And I don't know if I do have discipline, but at the same time, I also just prioritize like, girl, am I having fun? Like, am I enjoying my life? Is this because I just think that at the end of the day I want to look back at my life and not just see like a bunch of achievements that were empty. Did I actually have, did I actually enjoy myself? Did I get anything out of this while I was doing it? And I think I can see how that has guided my decisions throughout my entire life. Like, there's never been a time where someone has told me what to do if I didn't want to actually do it. Like, you know how people would be like, Oh, my parents wanted me to study this. Yes. And like, I'm too afraid to go against it. Like, I come from a family of people in STEM. Like, my dad is an engineer, my mom is a nurse. Before that, very like I had a dentist in the family. Um, trying to think of other professions, but they were all pretty much like kind of in STEM, kind of in medicine, like, and I'm out the gate. I want to be in communications. Like, I want to be a communications girl. That people are like, oh, them majors don't make no money, they don't do this, they don't do that. And I was like, not my parents, people. Oh, okay. Um, because you know, people like when you choose a major, they'll be like, oh, you don't choose that one? Are you sure? Like, and For me, at the top of my list was not, Am I gonna make money? It was am I gonna be happy? Because if I'm happy, I'll find a way to make to make the money. I'm like, y'all might be graduating with communications degrees and not making money, but somebody is, and I'll be that somebody, like I'll figure it out. But at the end of the day, I want my life to I want to look around and feel like this is curated because Kendall likes it, not this is curated because it looks good on paper, yeah, but it actually doesn't bring me any like true inner peace, inner joy, inner happiness, inner anything.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

I love that. Yeah, eudaimonia, eudaimonia, taught me a new word. Well, but do you feel like you are living in that truth? Do you feel like I know? So the score, also, I will disclaimer for you guys listening, it gives you an authenticity gap, and the authenticity gap could be negative or positive or zero percent. And so if it's negative, there are things in your life you might feel are lacking, is at it, and then if it's positive, that means that's a good thing, yeah. Like you're you're in alignment with who you want to be. Right. If it's a hundred percent, like you're a hundred percent in alignment with that.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

No, no, because it's measuring the gap. Okay, so if it's a hundred percent, then it's like a hundred percent gap. If it's zero, there is no gap, therefore. You're a hundred percent in your truth, yeah. It's like weird to think about it that way, but it's measuring the gap, not measuring if you're actually doing it. Right. So a hundred percent would mean you the the gap is like wide, it's wide away. It's very wide.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

You need to like reel it back in a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Yeah, zero would mean you're perfect. So wherever you fall on that scale, it places you.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

And I'm curious for the okay, so for my authenticity gap for affluence, I'm just gonna read this. A zero percent authenticity gap for affluence means you're fully living your desire for financial security, abundance, and the freedom it provides. You actively pursue, manage, and enjoy resources in a way that feels aligned with your deeper goals. Your commitment to building and sustaining wealth is exactly where you want it to be. So I guess that's a good thing. I guess. Like, girl, you know that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Yeah, it's a great thing. Do we explain that when you take the quiz, you first sit down and you answer questions about what you want your ideal life to be? Like it prompts you to not think about any constraints or limiting beliefs, just if you could live exactly how you want, what would that look like? Then it kind of pauses, gives you a second to gather yourself. Then it says, Okay, now answer honestly and how you're living your day-to-day life now. And don't judge yourself, just be honest, and then it matches the two. Gotcha. So that's how we go. That's how that's how we measure that gap.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Gotcha. Yeah, I don't think we did explain that. That's uh definitely really great to know because it's been a minute since I took it, but you took it more recently.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

I just took it this morning. I did take I took it when she sent it to me, but I couldn't find my results, and I low-key wanted to do it again just because I wanted to remember the process and do it again and see if anything changed. So it was nice to do it again. But I almost said in the beginning when you were like, Oh, we linked it in the description.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

So just you know, I almost said, Well, you can do it as you listen, but I honestly wouldn't No, don't I don't I would say it's just take a minute to yourself and pause, yeah, come back to it and then come back to it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

But yeah, so I mean, was that your question? Or like did I thought you were asking?

SPEAKER_01 25:25

I think I just wanted to break down what the authentic authenticity gap meant more so than anything, because it can be a little confusing, but I also feel like it makes more sense when you're actually able to sit down and read everything that it says too. So just take the quiz, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

Yeah, yeah, it's I really love this. Yeah, this was. For example, my eudaimonia gap is 16.1. So I guess that means like currently I do live in alignment with that value, but not fully. You know, like there's probably areas where I have to prioritize something else, which makes sense because I'm 24 years old. Like I can't prioritize just having a life full of things that make me happy. At some point, you do have to choose to make harder decisions to make those sacrifices, yeah, so that then I can have a life where it's like I wake up and I truly do what I want, which is kind of what you were saying with affluence, in a way, like it's the vessel to be able to have that freedom. Yes, that right now we might have to put in extra work so that we can have that because we're not Nepo babies. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Not in we don't like top choice, you know, my kids, but not me. But not me, but not me.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

The life of a Nepo baby, girl. That could be a whole nother actually, it can't be an episode because I can't even put that point of view to that, but we could break it down. We can do a we can do a case study.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

We don't need no more case studies on Neppo baby. Yeah, that's facts.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

We don't really need to know too much about them.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Like, but yeah, so what was your second?

SPEAKER_01 26:59

So my second was achievement. So let me go ahead and go to this definition for my girls. So achievement, it was a time. I will read the definition for my achievement authenticity gap since it is negative. I read the definition for affluence since it was zero, and for I guess that means if it's at zero, you're fully walking in that truth. So for me, um, achievement was ranked number two. The definition basically is achievement reflects how much you seek visible success with visible being key. It's not just about doing well, it's about being recognized for doing well. You want to be seen as one of the best, whether as a CEO, a nurse, a stay-at-home parent, or the town pickleball champion. While high achievement is common among athletes and business leaders, it also draws chefs, yogis, artists, and gardeners. It's not about what you do, it's about how much you strive to excel and how much you desire acknowledgement for that excellence. As a life organizing principle, achievement shapes how you prioritize progress, performance, and recognition. You may be keenly aware of this drive or not, but if achievement is a core value for you, it influences the way you evaluate opportunities, relationships, and even your sense of self-worth. You're always asking, Am I moving forward? And if not, what can I do to change that? I definitely felt like that was me too. And I also think that that is one of my biggest opportunities because I don't ever feel like I can just be. I always feel like I do need to be moving forward. I do feel like achievement is very important to me. Now, what I will say is like the visibility of that is something that can kind of be debated for me. But I do value recognition, like I do value if I put in really hard work, being recognized for that work that I put in, because I don't ever want to be walked over, I don't ever want someone to come in and take credit for the work that I definitely put in. I think that's really important to me. But I don't need like standing ovation, you know what I'm saying? Like just a, oh, I really love that you did this. This looks great, you know, something. And I think that that also for a lot of jobs and internships that I've had was could be a contributing factor as to why I left because I felt like I was putting in a lot of hard work, but I wasn't getting credit for it, and I don't like feeling like my effort is wasted ever. Like, and it might not be wasted, like it might genuinely be contributing to that conversation or to that organization. But if you're not acknowledging that for me, then I'm gonna have to leave because I need someone who's gonna acknowledge and value the work that I'm putting in. So I agree, and I always do feel like I have to be making progress, and I think I said this before like the plant in every single area of my life, so that's why I said it's really hard to just be like achievement, is kind of just who I am and what I aspire to do, and I think that also comes just with the life of being a fluent, so yeah, it makes sense, it like it goes hand in hand, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Exactly. So yeah, I like that they said that they could see that for business owners because I think it just made sense for the professions, like obviously athletes, um, I'd even say like entertainers, like there's a certain level of visibility that you have to have to go places. You can't be you can't be amazing in your living room. Like you have to be willing to be in front of something, somebody, somewhere. So yeah, I see how like that could be a negative thing if you are only doing it for the external validation, yeah. But I think it the people who do that, it's kind of obvious. Like it kind of they can be successful. Like, we there's plenty of examples of people who are just arrogant and like their ego is just so big, and that's why they're doing what they do. But I think it just shows, and for you, I think it's driven by more than just that. Like, I wouldn't reduce it down to just visibility, yeah. That's something that you need, yeah. But you also it is you, like it's your passion, it's what you it there's a different energy when you're actually like walking in your truth versus when you're masking as something because you want hand claps, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:15

And it kind of ties to one of the other values, we'll get into that later. But when I was reading back through and I was reading each individual one, I could see how two of them work together, besides the first and the second one of affluence and achievement. I'm not even talking about affluence, I'm talking about another one, uh, which will be the fourth one. But when I was reading both of those descriptions, they literally, in my opinion, worked hand in hand. Yeah. When it came to visibility, am I moving forward? Am I impacting? And things like that. Yeah. And this authenticity gap was negative. So I will get into that. Yeah, like she's like, what does it mean?

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Just Google it.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

So, what my authenticity gap means, because it was negative 15%. It says for you, achievement isn't just important, it's a core driver of your motivation, shaping how you set goals, measure progress, and define success. However, your negative authenticity gap suggests that the pursuit of success has taken up more space in your life than even you are comfortable with. Since this is a core value, an authenticity gap beyond negative 30% is worth reflecting on. When the game of achievement starts to feel like a relentless treadmill rather than a fulfilling pursuit, it's time to assess whether or where you can recalibrate. But for me, mine was under negative 30%. So it's just basically saying like you're achieving. Yeah, I'm approaching the the aspect where you might want to recalibrate because your pursuit of success might be more than you are able to really handle.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

And I could see that too.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

No, and I was gonna say, because that I see that for you, and I just did this quick goo, and it makes so much sense. It says this occurs when a certain value is over-indexed, meaning it's dominating your life to an unhealthy degree compared to what you actually desire. And we've had so many conversations recently where it's like, okay, yeah, I want to be successful, I want to have my business, I want to be doing all, I want to be multifaceted, yeah, but it gets to a point where every single day the to-do list is far too long, yeah, you're far too drained, yeah. You're working from nine to basically nine, yeah, even further. We hours of the night, we're we're cranking these celsiuses to get it done. Yeah, and it's like at what cost? Like at what point are you gonna just be like, this is too far, you know? Exactly. So I do see that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

And I won't say it's getting to a point where it's concerning, but it is something to take heed of, especially since I am young now and I can see that kind of taking over. But I think I am doing better at establishing processes that's more how can we streamline this and make it still efficient and do a really, really good job, but it does not require a hundred percent of my attention. You know, shout out to AI and automatic workflows, but I don't need my entire life to be AI, you know. Like I'm I was joking before, I'm I'm not actually AI, I'm not cloned for real, but you're trying to convince us that we don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

We we're not speaking to Stephanie. Yeah, I was trying to tell them years ago the road cloned to the Bahamas and cloned herself, and now we're speaking to an AI version of her.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Yeah, and this is a normal conversation with Stephanie, just on the I'm I'm controlling the conversation from the Bahamas, but I'm in the Bahamas right now.

SPEAKER_03 34:43

They're gonna be like, what is wrong with the Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

I just joke all day.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Stephanie play all day.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Yeah, literally, that's the middle name for LOL. But yeah, that is my second one. But I do believe that achievement is a really driving factor in my life, and I do want to always be achieving something. I do feel like I'm meant for great things, and achievement is just one of those things that just comes with the territory. But there are areas of my life that can be reassessed as far as achievement goes, and we can really fine-tune and hone that back into a place where it'd be it's healthy. It's not like it's unhealthy right now, I'm not saying that at all, but it can get to a point where if I don't work on it now, it will get unhealthy.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

Yeah, you can just see the trajectory of the city. Exactly, exactly. It's you know, always easier to correct than to react later on in life. So exactly. I'm 100% with you there. My second was beholderism, beholderism. I looked up a quick definition, a personal value that measures how much you prioritize aesthetics, sensory harmony, and visual presentation in your daily life.

SPEAKER_01 35:59

And um yeah, kindled to a T.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

What can I say? I'm a Libra, like ladies, ladies, but it's just me, and I feel like I've been that way for as long as I can remember. Like I'm trying to think of a time when I wasn't like that, and it's hard. Yeah, and I think it I joke and say I'm a Libra and that's why I am the way that I am. I think that's a part of it, but I like that there was just something else, like another term that I could reference when I speak about what it means to me because it's not really just about, like, I know we've just talked about wellness and aesthetics, and it's like, okay, wellness is not just about like the matching set and looking at it. Right. Like for me, it just goes deeper than that. It is, I like how they said just harmony. Yeah. And I feel like when my space is pretty, when I feel pretty, when I feel like my circumstances, like everything's just working in harmony, I just feel good, which goes back to the first value of just like feeling joyful. Yeah. I liked the way that the the quiz broke it down because it said that it says the value, the value of beholderism has stages of acceptance. At first, people tend to resist it when it shows up at the top because they think I'm not that vain and superficial. And they protest, but once you understand the value better, you can make peace with it. Yeah. And I don't know if I've ever wrestled with the fact that, like, yeah, I want nice things, I want a nice aesthetic. I I have thought to myself, am I vain?

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

But I also don't care.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Good. That's good.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

I haven't, I don't, it didn't make me sad or mad or embarrassed to see this pop up because I just feel like I don't know, it's it's a value, it's a it's an important value. For those who hold this value, aesthetic harmony is more than just preference. It's part of what makes life feel rich, ordered, and right. So it's just to me, it's an art of how I curate my life. Like my entire life, I want it to feel like art. I want you to look at my home and see curated pieces from like different artists. Like, I want to commission people to have artwork in my home. Like, this is my ideal life. Commission people to have artwork in my home. I want like a sculpture somewhere on some crazy like men. I'm gonna go to your mansion. Hello? I want like a piano that way I can just like you just walk in, you just see a piano in the foyer. Like to me, it just I want my inner world and my passions to be shown through how I curate everything around me. Like, I want you to know me from knowing, from seeing what I have going on, even down to like my clothes. Like, we've talked about this. I want to stop leaning so much into fast fashion. Oh, I got somewhere to be, let me just like I want to be slowly over time developing a timeless closet that screams Kendall. Yeah, um, so I don't really have a problem with beholderism being a top value because to me it's it's literally just art. And I think that I'm a very artful and intentional person, yeah. If that makes sense. So I lean into it because I see more than just surface level vein aesthetics, and I see a way of living life that is I don't know, it's it's nothing to be ashamed of.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

I don't think so either. Yeah, and I think I've said that about you before like everything you do is extremely calculated, yeah. You're very particular about what you allow into your life, and I think that kind of goes into the beholderism a bit because everything that you want in your life, you want it to be curated and intentional, and it needs to be something that either serves your joy or your peace or something along those lines. So I could a hundred percent see how that's a value for you, and I think it, yeah, we say you're a Libra, but it also goes just beyond you being a Libra, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Like that's almost too surface level explanation, exactly. But I am surprised this one's not negative because we've talked about perfectionism. I think it kind of feeds into that in a way because I want things to look a certain way, be a certain way, and if it's not exactly that, I don't want anything to do with it. And for me, that that takes it too far. Yeah, like when I'm over-critiquing things because I want it to look a certain way or feel a certain way, that's where I lean too much into perfectionism. But right now it's at zero, so I guess we'll put an authenticity gap, huh?

SPEAKER_01 40:20

Yeah, I that's good though.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

It's as I finally understand why I quit my job. The offices were a mess. I would quit my job if my office was a mess. I can't work in clutter, yeah. Like I can't. I my house is always clean. Like my friends will come to my house and see my room, and they're like, Oh, you clean up for me. No, it always bed's always made, my clothes are never on the floor. Because if I walk into that, I feel crazy. Yes. And if you ever see my room and I have old food dishes from dinner last night, my clothes haven't been put away. Just know I'm probably mentally not in the world.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

Yeah, we gotta check on her.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

Cause like that's how I view my car, my room. If it's a mess, it's because I feel a mess. So when it's clean, I feel cleaner. And that's how I trick myself when I'm in like a rut. Yeah. Like, okay, first clean, get up, take a shower. Yeah, put a nice outfit on. Right. I can trick myself into feeling better because I know what that's what makes me feel better, you know.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

That's so important though. Yeah. I love the questions that they, or not the questions, but the statements that they say, you might be or often labeled as this. Um, you might not agree with that, or you might live in that. Like for um the achievement one, it was like you might be labeled as competitive, and you might have heard that all your life. And yeah, I mean, I have heard that I'm competitive. I am competitive, I do think, but it can be to a fault sometimes. Yeah, because not everything needs to be a competition, but that's the authenticity gap. Yeah, the negative that not everything needs to be a competition. But I love how it was like um you might feel vain. It said it might you might be labeled as vain or as someone of that nature, but you know that's not true. Yeah, and I mean, knowing you, I know you're not a vain person, like you just really value the aesthetic.

SPEAKER_02 42:11

Yeah, like I don't want to even go too far where like you're you feel like I am just oh, she's so vain, doesn't care about anything, yeah, but how she looks and how they feel like that's the case. No, that's not the case. Yeah, there's a difference, not like how it broke it down. That's why I wanted to have my computer and read it because I'm like, I could try to I feel like the extra I'm gonna forget something.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

I'm so sorry. And especially for the people who feel like they're resonating with that specific value, I want to be able to give them like an actual definition that they might see when they do it themselves or they decide not to and be like, oh yep, that's me right there. At least you can have something of source to go and talk about, you know. So I love it. Well, we actually have the same third one. I think we do, do we? Cosmos? Cosmos? Yeah, okay. So cosmos interesting.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

I have to look at everyone around here.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

Yeah, I'm gonna let you talk about it then.

SPEAKER_02 43:10

Okay. Well, it says it's called the God value, and it's cosmos reflects how much you seek a life guided by the tenets of your religion or belief system. So that you might it says you may not attend religious services, pray daily, or study sacred test texts, but you hold an authentic desire to center your life around God.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

Yeah, and I think that's really, really, really important what they said there because you might not be religiously centered, but you might be spiritually centered. You might have other things that center you besides religion. And I think that's really, really important because I don't want anybody to feel pressured to conform to a certain belief. Yeah. And I think that's why I love that they labeled it cosmic. Those because it's it's like the universe, like whatever you whatever it is that you believe that you feel centers, you return to that often to ground you exactly. And this is so interesting for us because yours is a hundred percent, mine is zero. Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

I'm still wrapping my head around what those percentages mean so I don't know what that means.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

I just know if they're mouth and I'm like, okay, so wait, I want you to read if you feel comfortable, like your authenticity gap.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

When your authenticity gap exceeds 30%, it indicates the gap between your faith and daily life is widening beyond what feels comfortable. If it rises above 50, it's time to take a serious look at what's causing this disconnect and take steps to recenter your faith in a way that feels authentic and fulfilling. And I think that's what I was trying to say earlier. If it's 100%, like the island is mad far. Yeah. And I think that's so true for me. Yeah. It's like I know in the back of my mind that I really want to be a more spiritually grounded person, but I think I'm on just a journey. Yeah, I'm just on a journey of returning to that. And now that I'm an adult, I say this, you know, if it ever comes up, but when I was younger, my grandma had me in church, maybe every single week. Then I went to high school, kind of fell off. Like, well, probably it probably fell off around middle school. Then high school kind of just fell off. Like I went off to college, went off to grad school, and life was just so busy all the time that it was like there were so many other things going on that I didn't really like keep the same practices. I'm not really, I'm like low-key checking in with like my faith, but not really. And now that I'm an adult and I think I just have a different set of values, I'm like, what is really going to be what what is guiding me? And what is the purpose of it all? Like, I feel like it just you need a purpose, you need a belief in something bigger than yourself. Yeah. And I spent a lot of those years just thinking about myself and how can I get this degree? How can I have the most experiences, have the most fun? Yeah. But I'm also now at a point where that's not that just can't be all life is. And I'm just wanting to be more, like I said, grounded in my faith, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 46:23

No, it does. So it definitely does.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

You know, even stuff like I purchased like my very first Bible, like with my like as an adult last year. I go to church more often. I check in with like I bought I bought us um the astrology like um Daily Planners, daily planners, daily executive planner.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

That's we should leave more.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

Which have been we should leave and yeah, just like learning more about astrology, learning more about my life path, learning more about just all the ways you could be spiritually aligned outside of religion alone. Yeah, because for me, it's I don't even know how to describe myself. Like I know I don't know how to describe myself, but I kind of pull from kind of a lot. Me too, and because a lot resonates with me. Like I know how to like take something, and if it was working for me, it's working, if it's not, it's not. Yeah, and I think that's part of what this journey is, is that I'm just not a closed-minded person, so it's hard for me to just say I'm this and nothing else. When there's so much to learn, there's so much to experience, and I kind of just allow life to be my experience knowing that God has me. Yeah, and God would want me to have that journey to then be more connected to Him. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 47:37

I a hundred percent completely feel you, yeah. And I think I was also having this realization on my trip to Greece this year because Greek mythology there is huge, but they're also extremely Catholic. And for me, I was like the duality, right? They believe in these myths, they have cities founded on the goddess of Athena, you know, the the goddess of Nike, but yet they also still truly deeply believe in the religious roots and aspects of their culture. Yeah, and I thought that was really beautiful because I feel like sometimes in the Western hemisphere, they're very much so all or nothing. Like you said, like you're one, you're this, your your faith is in God and in nothing else. Like, if you were talking about astrology, you're talking that devil talk. And it's like, I don't I don't really believe that, you know. And I don't describe subscribe to it either because I after seeing you know how they're living. Mind you, in Greece, in all I think Orthodox Christian countries, but mainly in Greece, because I was there during Easter, the kids have two weeks out of school, two weeks for the Easter holiday. We don't even get a day off, yeah. However, they want you to be so subscribed and so conformed to a religion and a uh subspecialty of that, whatever the denomination basically of it, but we don't even have a day to we have Sabbath, we have Sunday, and that's it. You know, it's crazy. However, the kids got two weeks off of school, and so I'm just saying, like, I completely agree with you because I also feel like I was definitely in a phase of just like trying to figure out what was for me, and I think for the longest time I did feel like I had to choose okay, it has to be Christianity, and that's it. Okay, well, maybe not Christianity, maybe it just has to be, you know, the mythology and that's it. But it's like, no, I think that we are on this earth for a reason, the universe is so vast. Why would there be all these different buckets to tap into if we weren't meant to tap into them?

SPEAKER_04 49:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

And I think it's interesting just in general that there are so many buckets to tap into. I think it's a beautiful thing. I think astrology is something that is a beautiful thing to tap into. Clearly, it's something that has been studied for years, centuries. There are books written on it, there's philosophers who have talked about it, there's mythology, things that we don't even really understand, we haven't even dove into that have grounded people like the ancient Greeks that have grounded their beliefs and how they lived their life, you know? And so for me, I feel like similar to you, like I was definitely a church kid. Like we were in church every Sunday, and then we got to middle school. So we middle school. It was a very aw-consuming time, like yes, it's there. But um, yeah, and then we kind of just stopped going. Yeah, I just kind of stopped going. Yeah, and then for high school though, my high school was Episcopalian. So we had uh chapel every Tuesday and every Friday, and then for the people who are boarding students like me, we had Vespers on Sunday. So that was three church services a week, and I will say I felt like that was pretty good for me because it still grounded me with everything else that was going on, but also when you're a teenager and there are people around you who are experimenting and doing other things, you also feel like you want to tap into those different buckets as well. Like I didn't want to go all in on being Episcopalian because I didn't, I didn't come from Episcopalian background. I I really am, I would say non-denominational because I can't say that I'm Catholic, I can't say that I'm Episcopalian, I can't say that I'm, you know, anything specifically, but it was very, I'm glad that I had that experience of being quote unquote forced to be in that sort of um, I guess, environment so many times because it definitely kept that in my life, it kept it as an anchor, it kept God and spiritual and Christianity as an anchor in my life. And even when I went to college and I graduated from high school, and I kind of still didn't really go to a specific church or seek that out intentionally all the time, it still gave me something to lean back on. And I think when I graduated recently, I would I would say like the past couple years, is something that's something that I've been trying to tap back into, but I always feel like I've just been very in tune with the universe. That's what I would say too.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Yeah, it's always it's never left me, yeah. Exactly. I've always felt grounded in some way, yes, and in tune is the right word, in tune with something, something like I don't know who what was where connected, you know, but I think now for me it's about defining so that I can like fully sit in it and feel comfortable and walk in that and walk in it, yeah. And I think just it being a little bit more of a question mark was bothering me now that I'm just more of an adult. Yeah, because yeah, like it's it comes with just having the freedom to learn and ask questions, yes, and to better know you and your faith and your values value system. Um, because that is something that when I was a kid, like I don't know. I I I I came from a family that I could ask questions. But like if I was going to like we had like you know, vacation Bible school, like sometimes you would hear things and it's like I I look we have a question, but I'm not sure if I can ask that question because it's supposed to be just like this is what it is. And now you just have more freedom to be like you can just explore more. Yeah, and I do appreciate that. But same, yeah, I think for me right now, this season is more about really getting serious about tapping in that way it can become more of an integrated part of my life, yes, versus something that sometimes I feel more, you know, in connected there, and then other times I feel a little bit more disconnected, yeah, especially during times where I think it's easy to lean on praying and faith and all the things in certain seasons, and then other seasons life gets hard, life gets busy. You're not as I don't want that to be my story anymore. Like that's it needs to be something that is a daily practice in my life, and I'm figuring out what that looks like for me. I'm figuring out the cadence of which I do want to go to church. Yeah, do I want to join somebody's church? Yeah, what's the cadence of me um taking time to like meditate, taking time to um read about, I don't know, a horoscope. Like it's just like what is what is gonna be my weekly, daily, monthly routine that upholds my spirituality. So I, you know, can definitely see how for both of us, like Cosmos was up there because it's just such it's so clearly a major part of our life that even if we don't have it 100% figured out, I can tell that we have both come a long way with even just like speaking about it and like being comfortable and like this is what this is who I am and this is what I believe.

SPEAKER_01 54:46

I agree, I agree. I think that faith has like played a big part in like the past year of my life too. But I also feel like there are other buckets that have also played a big part. I also think it's one of those things that you tap into different buckets and you take what you want and you leave the rest. You take what you want over here and then you leave the rest. And not saying like you only take the good parts and you leave all the bad parts because that's not what I'm saying at all. But it's more so you really understand what will work for you. If it doesn't work for you, if it doesn't resonate with you, then bye-bye, you know, then you move on to the next thing. But it's definitely something that needs to be, I would say, you have to figure out what you want, and I think for us, like Cosmos is something that kind of grounds us and like we feel aligned in that way, just because I think the universe brought us together.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 55:40

I think there was a reason that our there is a reason that our friendship exists and that we were meant to meet each other in this lifetime. That's just one example of Cosmos for me.

SPEAKER_02 55:48

Yeah, you know, I look around in my entire life and I just think like everything is divinely orchestrated. Is literally like I'm I'm so serious. Like I get chilled sometimes when I just think about my life, when I not even just my life, my life, but also just looking around. I see God in so many things, and I just see just the just the higher force, a higher presence. Like nothing to me is really accidental. Yeah when I just look around. I agree. And to me, it's something that's so undeniable that yeah, even at my most question mark confused, it never gave like I have no belief in anything at all. Like it's never gone that far because I just can't I can't look around and feel that way.

SPEAKER_01 56:30

Yes, okay, yeah. I I definitely see what you mean by that. I don't think faith has ever left me. Faith in anything, yeah. I don't think I would ever have said in my life, I am I don't believe in nothing at all.

SPEAKER_03 56:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:42

And I was even talking with my dad about this the other day because I had recently seen Disclosure Day. Have you heard of Disclosure Day? No, it's a film by Steven Spielberg, it just came out and it's basically just talking about people admitting aliens are real, which they've been telling us for a while. I mean, if you read the documents that the US government has been releasing, do your own research. Don't spook it. Yeah, I know it's a little spooky, but I without spoiling it, because I don't want to spoil the movie for you, especially if you're planning on seeing it, I was really happy with the fact that there was a religious component of the film. Because I was talking to my dad about it, and I was just saying, like, I really love how he added that in there because when something like this comes out, people start to question who and what they believe in. And with that being integrated into the film, it was acknowledging that. And it was my dad was just basically saying, like, yeah, people always need something to believe in, they always need a higher power, whatever that might be, something to ground them. And when a revelation, like aliens or something comes out, they start to question everything. And so I was really, really happy to see that they had a religious component of that film. If you haven't seen it, it's a really good movie. And I am not one for scary movies. It's not scary, it's PG 13. I literally asked Malik, I said, What's the rating on this movie before I go? He called PG 13 for your scary stuff. Like I said, okay, all right, I'll go. And it was so good, and I really appreciate how it was done. By the way, Steven Spielberg is the same person who did E.T. So, you know, he's been he's been at this for a while. He's been trying to tell us something, but that's besides the point. That's besides the point. Anyway, but yeah, we always need something that grounds us, something to believe in, something that brings us back to ourselves or makes us feel whole again. That is not just another person, that is like a spiritual entity.

SPEAKER_02 58:38

Exactly. My life will feel empty if I don't have that 100%.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

So wow, that was a like really powerful conversation on comments. It really was. Like I really like the direction that that went.

SPEAKER_02 58:49

I know, me too. And I I'm I'm actually really happy that we only had one the same. Yeah. Because we are so similar. Like, I think so far had so many moments of just being like, girl, like, yes. But I think what also makes this work is that there's a common link for something like Cosmos, but then there's so many other different values that we have that we just respect in one another. Like, I really appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 59:14

Yeah, me too. And I love that it was three, too. Yeah, it's like power and threes. There is a power and threes. Oh my gosh. And it's cosmos too, like the Holy Trinity. Like, oh my gosh, all these things. So many, you know what? That could be a whole episode, and so let's just cut that apart and make that an episode.

unknown 59:31

Oh, it really could.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

So, my fourth one was radius, and so to break down what radius means, it is as a value, radius is all about the magnitude of the systemic change you seek to create in your life. It reflects the intensity of your desire to make an impact, whether on a social, cultural, national, or even a global scale. A person with high radius may be driven to reform institutions or influence policy, but feel less drawn to one-on-one aid. Conversely, a high non-sibi individual may dedicate their life to personal acts of service without seeking widespread change. Ultimately, these are distinct motivations, each shaping the way a person seeks to make an impact. So basically, there's radius and there's non-sibi, which are two completely different values. But I could 100% see radius in me as well, which is what I was saying kind of ties to the achievement value that I had of making large-scale change and impact. And I think like even radius is like one of the driving factors behind why I wanted to create a YouTube channel and why I wanted to focus on like personal development content and things of that nature, because I a hundred percent believe in helping people and helping people make their lives better. But sometimes it can be exhausting to me to do that one person at a time.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:51

I see.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:52

And I feel like if I can do it on a larger scale all at the same time, that for me would be more beneficial and make me feel a lot more accomplished, achieved, you know, like achievement, yeah, rather than doing that one person, one hour, because I feel like my energy could be used otherwise at that excess.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:11

That actually makes a lot of sense, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:12

Yeah, and so my authenticity gap with this one was actually positive. It was 29.2%, which meant that an authenticity gap above 25% may signal the need for readjustments. If you're out, um hold up. That's it. That's all it said. That's not all it said, but then it just jumped to 50%. I'm like, no, we we're not at 50%. Yeah, but basically having a high impact on the world or human humanity is deeply important to you. Radius is a core value, but your positive authenticity gap suggests you're not living that desire as fully as you'd like. Simply put, you want to be more involved in creating change. And I couldn't agree more. I do, and I think something like the podcast has really helped me with that. But I have for the longest time been saying that I want to do things like public speaking. I want to speak with bigger groups of girls and you know, do more large-scale impact. I definitely believe in like large-scale impact, and I felt like that really resonated with me. And it honestly tied into like all of the other values that I had when it came to like affluence, when it came to achievement, even cosmos. Like, I do believe that like it all tied in together. And so when I was reading, because you know, you read radius, and you're like, okay, now what in the world is that what is that supposed to mean? Because radius could be a lot of things. Now I get it, but now I get it, right? Like your radius affects a large amount of people, yeah. And I don't know, I feel like people have always told me, like, like you said, like even the first episode, like when you walk into a room, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

I was just gonna say, I think you're like a such a good person that you're just well positioned to do what you want to do, you know? You have that type of demeanor, that personality, and then when you speak, you have you know how to word things, yeah, you know how to get a message across.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:10

Oh my gosh, it's like so crazy that you say that. Why okay? So do you remember when I was telling you with my wellness coach, a set, um, I was talking about how she makes these amazing journal prompts. And uh, I will I like to type because I feel like I can get my thoughts out faster if I type rather than if I write or if I speak. But she was saying your power is in your blue chakra, which is your communication. You the way you can communicate words effectively is very profound and it has an impact. Like when you speak, it has an actual impact on people. And so the fact that you say that is like really crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:51

I remember, but it does, it's true, it's super true. So I think that all of your values, it it just screams you, like just you know, long story short, yeah. I can see exactly how you got those results, but I think it's gonna be fulfilling for you because yeah, you are very much in a position and you have the resources to do what you want to do with your life, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

It's just about being intentional and walking in that. Because I think for a long time, I felt a little bit of like almost shame around a couple of things, like especially when it came to affluence, because I feel like I didn't come from that background, so it's almost like people being like, Oh, who do you think you are? Or what makes you think that you deserve that more than anybody else? Or, you know, things of that nature, especially when it comes to money. Money is just such a tricky subject. Like, I even saw this short today on YouTube about this girl, and she was like, You should never tell people how much you make, you should never tell people how much you're saving. And I'm like, why? Like, I feel like that gives you leverage in situations. I mean, of course, be strategic. Don't just go shouting to everybody how much you make, but like, I feel like conversations around money are incredibly important. And if we gatekeep that all the time, how are we ever gonna move forward as a society, as women, especially if we don't talk about it? And I know Emma Greed has said stuff about this before about how women are scared to speak about money at a dinner table. Meanwhile, the men at the table across the corner in the in the corner of the steakhouse are talking about stocks, investments, how much they have in their portfolio, what piece of land they just bought for how much XYZ, you know, but we're scared to even bring it up because we don't want to feel shame or embarrassment for either making too much or for making too little, you know. So it's just one of those things that I felt for the longest time I just kind of had to get over. And I feel like now, just like the older that I get, the more that I just really stop caring.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

Like that's one of the beautiful things about Age, that they tell you they're like, you get to the point where you just do not care. I don't.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:54

I just believe that I want to live and I want to make the impact that I want to make, I want to feel fulfilled. I want to feel happy and I want to feel like I'm driving a life of impact and change while I'm doing it. Yeah. And radius, affluence, achievement, and cosmos, because the universe is helping guide me on that path. It's putting me in positions to be able to do those things. Yeah. And the people in my life like you who are able to help me convey that message to do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:21

Yeah. So it's beautiful. Wow. No, genuinely. Like I know that sounded really corny, but it really is to me. And yeah, that's who came to mind too when you were talking about money is Emma Greed. Because that's something that I'm personally learning. And I don't know if it's shame, more so, like for me, it's just so taboo. Like I didn't grow up with parents that told me how much they made. Like I just knew, okay, this is our life, whatever. And just a general like sense of unawareness to, I mean, of course, when you're a kid, you're not like you don't know like something like you know what I mean. But even as you get older, it's just it's you just you're just living life. But then you become aware of the world for real, the economy and like you know, the ups and downs. Oh, yeah, for real. Everything that comes with adult adulting, pretty much. And I just don't think that I talk about it because again, I just never have. Yeah. And that I think it was a podcast where she mentioned, like, okay, well, women aren't talking, but men are. Yeah. I was like, that's so true. Like, why do I feel like it's weird if if I was to come, I would just never come up to you and be like, Steph, yo, how much so when you are saying that you're working with XYZ, like, how much are they paying you? Because I just am like, that's not really my business. Like, I think that's a good time. I know you would, but something in my mind is just like, I don't know. I think the only thing my parents ever said about that was, oh, you don't ask someone how much they make, you know, like you don't. So that's just what I thought like the rule was. I think most people are taught like it's rude to go into someone's apartment and be like, so how much y'all pay for rent here? Yeah. And people have asked me who are more brave, and it's not like I don't want to tell them, but then I find myself hesitating because I'm like, Am I sharing too much? Yeah, you know, but it's like salaries, getting paid, paying your rent, uh, making money, surviving, or all things like we everyone has to do. True. So it's a very human experience. And you're right, not talking about it is holding us back. Yeah. Because I saw this, I don't remember who was saying it, but I saw this creator, I think she's a public speaker, say that when she goes to events, she asks people how much she makes. Yeah. Or how much she they got paid to speak. And she said, for the most part, people will say, but some people are like, oh, I don't want to share. Like, but at the end of the day, it helps people because she'll be like, Oh, if I got paid a thousand and you got paid 700, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:38

That helps give them leverage.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:40

So, okay, I could actually have been asking for a thousand here when otherwise she wouldn't have known. So for me, it's not something that I'm 100% comfortable with. Like, there's certain questions and conversations around money that I still don't want to have. Yeah, but at least now I'm aware that that's something that's limiting limiting me so that I can continue to do the work to become more comfortable because I do want to be a person that is wealthy. Yeah. Because of how I grew up, I don't want to take steps backwards. I want to create a life for my kids that I feel like I had and then take it a step further. And then I want to I don't know. I think when I speak about money, there's just so many things I want to do, but at the core of it all, it's just freedom. Yes. And I think we have that in common. Yeah. But there is no way to really get to that if I'm so hush hush about it all. Right. And I think I can just do it in a vacuum, especially when there's so much that I don't know. Like I think my parents set me up very nicely, but also they were figuring it out for the first time themselves. They are not financial advisors. Exactly. If you just don't know what you don't know, basically. And I think more transparent conversations would really be beneficial for us all, but especially women. Yeah. And especially for the age that we are now. Because a lot of people have regrets when they get older. I wish I had done this, or if only I had known this. Um, we read a really great book, the what was it?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:03

The psychology of money.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:04

Not that or you're talking about the black girls that we read together. It was like the black girls to financial freedom. Good book. It was a good book, and I think the thing that I love the most about it was that it was such a good foundation. Yeah. For if you genuinely had no one ever tell you, break down to you like student loans, um, car loans, how to be how to retire by the time, what do you call it? Like fire, where it's like you retire by 30 or something. Um, if you've never even heard of that concept, like it was such a good book that I would hand to like my little sister who's 10, just so she can start thinking about that. Because if I had had that when I was 10, I would have made different choices, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:44

Like down to where I even went to school, like what kind of car I wanted to get, all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:50

My mom has like set up a um Roth R A, I R A for my sister, or is it a Roth R A for my sister? And I'm like, wow, where was that when I'm but like she's just like I just am older now, and I, you know, when that would that was created in like the 1990s and I was saying literally just about to say, like, you know, we found out that it was a relatively young concept when we were. So now that she knows she's doing better for my sister, but I just think that that's so beautiful that when you know you do better. Yeah. So now that my sister has that, and then she has me who can tell her more about these things before she even hits college, yeah, versus me, like I didn't have an older sister or an older sibling that had been to college before me, figuring it out more sort of on my own. It's just having conversations and being transparent will get you a lot further than trying to figure it out yourself. Yes, even if you think you have nothing to learn, yes, you do, right? You know, very, very true. No, that was a tangent.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:53

No, it's okay though, because like you're still impacting it, might not be your children, but that's still the younger generation that you're able to make an impact on. Right. And that will go for generations to come, children or not. So, yeah, it's a very powerful subject, and I can understand the hesitancy because you have to get comfortable with it first. Yeah, like I definitely needed to address money wounds before I could even move forward with anything else financial. Like, yeah, there was a lot of shame for a long time, but once I got past that, then it was just how do we move forward? Literally, how do we move forward? And I can see I taught, like I said before, about my inner teen, like she played a big role in I feel like a lot of the principles that I believe and value in today. So love the tangent. Yeah, that's what we're here for. This is the let me walk you out today. Let me walk you out.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:45

Let me walk you out. All right, fourth. So, what's your fourth one? It's family centrism.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:49

And we just talked about your fam.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:51

We did just talk about my family. And what's interesting about this one is when I first did the quiz when you sent it last year, I remember this wasn't one of them. Like, I do remember the other three being there, but this one was not there. And I want to go back and find now that I know what email is attached to, I probably could. Uh-huh. But I want to go back and find what it was originally, but I'll just tell you later. Yeah. But family centrism is the role that you want family to play in your life. That is how central you want their influence to be in shaping your decisions and actions, both professional and personal. And I was telling you before we started rolling that I know why this one popped up. Because since moving home, it has just it's made me remember like who I am, where I come from, and what I do it all for. At the end of the day, it's my family. Yeah. Like it's my family, it has been so pivotal. And just me being as confident, as happy, as fulfilled as I am. And if I was to take away other things in my life, all right. But if I took away my family, like I'm not sure what I would do. Yeah. And I just want to create a community with them that's even deeper and stronger and like just more close-knit.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:08

And I didn't realize how important that was to me because growing up, family's family. Like we are together, we have reunions, we go to each other's houses, but it all was just so natural. It was just like, yeah, like this is what we do. And then going off to college, I feel like I was away for like years. Like once I went to Howard, then immediately went to LA, yeah, it was like I wasn't every time I would pop back in to check in, things were so different. Yes. Because I had a little sister, she was born when I was in high school, and kids developed quickly. So when I was when I would come home for like Christmases and Thanksgivings and for the summer, she'd be like way taller. She'd been learning new things. I had a whole new set of friends, and I'm like, wasn't around for a lot of it to see it in the flesh. And it started to low-key bother me in the background. I was just like, time with your family is just so precious. It is. Um, my sister, and then like my parents are getting older. Um, it's just something that I just hadn't quite stopped thinking about towards the end of when I was living on the West Coast. And coming home, although I was sad to be leaving LA because I don't know if I was 100% like set in that. I was like, but what if I kept saying to people, I'm so happy I get to go home because I get to be around my family and my friends who I've grown up with, and I feel like I'm so disconnected from them at times because I get quick pop quick pop pop ins and check-ins on the phone. But that's not the same thing as being there with you guys like day in, day out, right? Yeah. But I've heard people talk about the trade-offs you have to make in life. It's like, do I move, let's say you're from a small town, do I move away from the small town to go chase my like big girl dreams in the city? But then knowing that like mom and dad are getting old in a farm in like I don't know, like Idaho. Old on a farm, just old on the farm, and I'm missing maybe my last moments with them, you know? And that's something that people deal with all the time. And I did not realize how much of a decision I was gonna have to make long term of I'm such an independent person, I'll get up and do anything, go anywhere, and I don't have the fear of like, oh, I'm by myself. I genuinely can be alone and I do love it. So knowing that and knowing that I would have been comfortable living in LA for years and just checking with my family, knowing that I'm that type of person, but also the type of person that like I'm not comfortable with my sister feeling like she has a sister, but not feeling close to her because it's like, well, I do have a sister, but she lives over there and we don't really see each other a lot. She comes home. That wasn't a narrative I was okay with either. So I don't know, since coming home and just living with my my parents, living with my dad, being at home closer to my mom, being able to see them more often. My values have shifted. Um, and we've spoken about how I still want to take another move at some point in my life. Before it was just do that because I really want to be like, I really want to move to New York. I really want to be in the city where everything happens. I feel like my career will go so many places. I will meet so many people. I will be able to, as a person who loves art, who loves um fashion, who loves just expression of all types, New York obviously, it's just like it's just the playground for everyone to be themselves. And I feel like I would be so happy there. But now there's a part of me that's like, I don't, how am I gonna make sure that my family is a part of that routine? Versus before I was just thinking, oh, they'll be there, it'll be good. I'm starting to realize how short life is and how I'm not gonna miss moments with my family for anything. So even if I do move again, they will be a better part of my routine than they were when I was living other places, and I was always calling them, but something about it still felt a little bit disconnected, if that makes sense. Yeah. Um and so how I do it now, like my authenticity gap was a hundred. And it says you have a strong desire to put family at the center of your life, but it's not happening as much as you'd like. Um and I do agree, I think it's so easy to just get so busy in your adult life and you forget your mom's house is down the street. I'll try my mom because we we talk every day, so it feels like enough, but I'll be like, wait, like the last time I was over there was three weeks ago, you know, and so this is something that me and my therapists have been talking about. It's like, all right, how are we gonna schedule some time? Like, I've told you that you've influenced me because this idea of like scheduling time, it sounds silly, but even you telling me, like, oh, I my family and I we do dinner like once a month now. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's something that I could integrate because everybody has such busy lives. Yeah, it's not just you, like you're you're feeling guilt because you feel like it's just you, but it's not, but it's not, it's really everyone, and no one's taking offense, like right, because we understand, yeah, but at the same time, we have to just get more intentional. Like, you know how it's a joke that when you grow up, there's all these family reunions, and then like one person dies, and then they all just stop because that one person was responsible for the organization of it all, like usually like the matriarch or something, and yeah, it's like when I'm looking around at me and my cousins, we loved having someone's house to go over to and have a pool party. We loved having this, but I'm talking to them now, like y'all, if we don't step up, there will be no more. Like, it's us. We're the next generation of people, you know. We're them, yeah, yeah. So I think I just want to have more healthy practices with just hanging out with all of my family. Like, you know, Lauren. Lauren is my cousin. Um, we just we went out to brunch not too long ago, and we were just like, girl, like we're both grown now. We have a car, yeah. Like we don't have to just see each other only at Christmas. Girl, we could link up anytime and any place and do anything. And I just appreciate having a family that I love on both sides, and I want to make sure that I cherish them while I have them. Yeah, like take every opportunity to be with them because I don't know, it's not like I didn't know that family was important to me, but now I'm really knowing that like this is, you know, I think it's just such a central part of my life, and I really want to embrace that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:13

Last year, when you took it, where were you? Were you here in the city or were you back in LA? I was here, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:20

I was here, and I think some of my answers were still the same. I kind of had some of the same thoughts, but I think they just got stronger to the to the point of kicking something else off the list. Like, I want to go back and look at what that list was, and we'll do it later. Yeah, but it's definitely just gotten a lot stronger. Um, but I've really loved it. Like, I've been spending so much more intentional time with all of my family. Yeah, I'm like, I really love y'all. Yeah, seriously, seriously. So it's just been it's just been such a big part of my life that has made me so fulfilled that um I'm grateful for.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:53

Yeah. Same. Yeah, I love that, and I love the effort that you genuinely make every single week, month, day with your family, and I know that they can feel that too. I mean, like, even with you just living with your dad, like making the decision to live with your dad this time, and then having to make the effort to see family with your mom, and so being able to balance both sides of that because you had a choice, like you had a choice this time or last time, right? Yeah, but that was really beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:24

Yeah, I just did not expect to love living at home that much, and being that close to family again was just so I don't know, it was just what I needed at the time. Yeah, really in the time of I was just so confused and so figuring it all out. Having that is it was just such a good safety net for me that I am realizing that's such a big value for me, and not even just the family I have, but the family I want to create. Yeah, I think about that. Like, what kind of mom do I want to be? What kind of sister? What kind of mentor? It doesn't even have to be like blood family. Like, I consider you my family. What type of person do I want to be to everyone that I consider like my close core unit, my family in a way? Um, and I wouldn't want to be with someone whose value wasn't family, like then I want to link up with someone who goes that hard for family because I want to then create that for like the the the future generation. And I think that's what ties all of these values is it helped me learn more about myself because I do think when I look at all of them, I do see me and I see how they all do kind of go hand in hand, but then I also see that this is again how I should be showing up in the world, how I should be I should say no to things that don't align with this and feel confident in that because there is no question mark, it's just like this is who I am and this is what I believe in, and we can be confident in that. And then I should seek out people who uplift that, support that. Like I just enjoyed this quiz because it might have been stuff I knew in the back of my mind, right? But again, to see it written out that way bringing it to the forefront was just powerful.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:12

Yeah, it really was. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I guess we can walk out with that. That is what we're walking out with. That was, I couldn't even agree more. I think that family centrism is definitely on mine, it's on there, it's not in the top four because I think right now, in this point in my life, in the point that I took the quiz, I'm so focused on building. And then the family comes in. Um, not saying that like, you know, my family right now is not important because you're a family girl. Yeah, like don't get it wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:46

But that's what I did like about the fact that mine changed like that. Yeah, because I'm like, yeah, you know, you take a quiz and it you feel like that's your identity. Like that's it. ENFJ. Yep. It's not gonna change. That's not how life works. So I appreciated that that crept up into my top four because yeah, like when I took it last year, was I thinking about family? Yes. Do I love my family? Yes. But right now, that is a big thing for me. Yeah, so I see what you mean by like, yeah, there's seasons of your life where these four is like what I'm you don't change as a person in town.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:19

Right, no, no, no. Just what you focus on. Which is what you're focusing on, yeah, exactly. And exactly. I think like right now I'm really focused on building, and that building will sustain what I'm creating for the family that I'm looking to create and the current family that I do have to be able to take care of them. But at the forefront, in order for me to truly feel like I'm doing them justice, I need to be able to build and to create um the life that I want so that they can be sustained by that too. Yeah. So yeah, I love everything that you said about family though, and I can a hundred percent see that for you. And I think that you do a beautiful job of blending all of your worlds, like mom, dad, sister, brother, everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:58

And I I got like I'm the definition of blend. Because I my parents are divorced, they both got remarried, so I technically have four families. To me, that's always why I this is a different conversation, and it's gonna take a different, so I'm not gonna go too deeply into it, but I've always just had such an expanded view of love and family, just coming from someplace, coming from a family that has broken up to then find something that was even bigger and better and more fulfilling for both parties, and to see the love in my life just feel extended, like to have my stepdad's family embrace me. Yeah, now to have another piece of family adding into it, it just feels like love is expanding. Yes, and everyone gets along. Like, I don't really have a messy family, like you know, my mom and my dad talk to each other if it's about me and there's no bad blood. So I just think that's why. Yeah, no matter what the family looks like, I go hard for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:54

Yeah, it's healthy, yeah. And that's exactly what it should be. That's exactly what it should be. Oh, that just warms my heart.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:02

I loved this conversation.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:04

Such a great episode. Like what should the what should the emoji be? Like that they comment. Is there a bridge emoji? Is there a bridge? Is there a bridge?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:11

If there's a bridge, I think there probably is one. Because if there's a bridge, I like that one too. I'm gonna bother just because value bridges, and then we're connecting our values and what we want.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:22

There's a bridge, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:24

Yeah, it's like it's like a it's like a portrait comment that with the stars in the back, cosmos, love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:32

All right, I would show you, but like you can't really see that. Just type in bridge and it's so fun. Thanks to iPhone that does like the it highlights the emoji for you, yeah. Um, but it looks like the San Francisco Bridge, it's dark, it's got the stars, stars comment bridge. Okay, yeah, so to walk out, I guess our walkout is just basically take this quiz. Yeah, if you feel like you want to take the quiz, it's linked in the description. We highly recommend you take it though.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:59

Yeah, the quiz was helpful. It's a good, it's a good guide to get you started thinking about it. Yes, but of course, you don't need a quiz to tell you your values, but just get clear on what your values are, get clear, and that's gonna help so much with just knowing yourself and knowing what you want out of life.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:17

And if you do have authenticity gaps, like what are some of the ways that you can close those gaps if they are lacking and like making you feel like you're not truly aligned with that? And how can you bridge those gaps, pun intended, to make you feel like you're living a more fulfilled and aligned life? Maybe journal on that, sit on that for a couple days, weeks, months, whatever how long it takes for you. But either way, this kind of stuff is here for you to truly feel like you can create the life that you want to live, and you can. It's just about believing that you can and bridging the gaps once again between where you are currently and where you want to be, and what do you have to do to make that mesh together? And so, yeah, that's what we want you to walk out with. This has been such a beautiful conversation. We really hope that you got something from today, even if it was just listening to us talk about it, and maybe you had some of the same values that we did that popped up on our quiz, which would be cool. Yeah, so definitely comment that bridge emoji if you have a black business that you would like to spotlight. Please, y'all, please fill out that form. We really want to be able to shout you out, especially if you're doing something phenomenal, amazing, and uh preferably, like we said, in the Atlanta area, but we are not biased, okay? We tap into all different we travel over here, we got passports, so let us know.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:42

You can be anywhere, any country, anywhere in the world time zone, okay, and you can fill it out exactly and same with the let me help you out topic request form.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:51

So if you have any topics or anything that you want us to talk about on the podcast, please like we're yeah we'll have a conversation.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:57

Started to get some submissions, so we'll be incorporating those. So yeah, we're excited to add that segment. So for sure, fill out that form.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:04

Definitely, but other than that, you know, we've been yapping as we do, no less. So, other than that, we love you so much, and we will definitely see you in the next episode. See y'all later. Bye.